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Help with draft please![edit]

Hey Liance,

Hope you're well, I just saw your message on my talk page. I was hoping you could give me some help/advise with my Draft: Draft:Early Echoic Skills Assessment and Program Planner. Let me know where you think I can add/remove elements to help the page get approved. I've gone through the prior reviewers comments and added more references to this assessment protocol. Risinglms (talk) 01:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Risinglms - addressing the reviewers' comments is certainly a good start and will be the best thing you can do. I also see that you have done the proper paid editing disclosure which is also important. I would recommend reading WP:THREE and noting the best 3 sources on Draft talk:Early Echoic Skills Assessment and Program Planner, as well as leaving a comment for reviewers on the draft page itself letting them know that you have done so. That should help speed up the review process. Hope this helps. ~Liance^talk 18:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Olivier English page[edit]

Hi Liance,

I added references after all the sentences that contain an explicit statement, as you requested for the last revision. It is a bit unfortunate that most sources are in Dutch, and that we could not find sources in English. Does this mean we cannot generate an English page? If so, how could we solve this?

Thanks! BA WURorc (talk) 08:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WURorc On the English Wiki sources are not required to be in English at all, they can be in any language as long as they are reliable - I would add the best sources you can locate to establish notability regardless of which language they are in. The only requirement is that the body of the wiki article itself is written in English. ~Liance^talk 18:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. Happy to read that my actions were in line with the requirements. Hopefully the page will be accepted soon. WURorc (talk) 10:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:28:46, 30 May 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by AmitGuha[edit]

AmitGuha (talk · contribs)
- Draft:George Michell (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thanks for your review comments. This biography was one of the deliverables for a Wikimedia project. I have submitted two other related drafts and both have been also rejected which is somewhat demoralising. The bar for accepting articles if quite high as it should be but it makes it hard for someone who is not a seasoned or regular contributor, I'm trying to understand the accepted best way to resolve the concerns before I resubmit this draft.

Will reducing the length of the article help? Is it acceptable to ask other seasoned editors to help with fixing the issues? Where can I ask for help? I realise Wikipedia is a volunteer organisation so it may not be reasonable to request others to help.

Also, I do not want to spend time trying to fix the article if it is unlikely to ever qualify to be a biography on Wikipedia.

Any help/guidance to a newbie is much appreciated. Thanks.

Amit Guha (talk) 15:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AmitGuha, I appreciate you reaching out. Writing new wiki articles is tough, I can absolutely understand the struggles you are facing. There are several immediate points of feedback I can point out - as noted earlier, the tone of Draft:George Michell is highly promotional - segments like "is a world authority", "played a pivotal role" should be reworded to be more neutral (see MOS:PUFFERY). Additionally you state several explicit facts about the subject such as how they receive several awards - in biographies of living persons we generally require a source for these statements to meet our verifiability policy.

I would thoroughly review WP:NBIO before continuing work on a subject's article. If you feel like the subject clearly meets the criteria - then yes, if the draft is suitable it will eventually be accepted into the encyclopedia, and is worth working on. A subject that does not meet the criteria however will not survive as an article. Your draft makes claims about the subject that could qualify them for notability but does not have the secondary, reliable sources with significant coverage to back them up at the moment. This would be the thing I would work on most if you want to pursue getting the draft accepted. I hope this helps. ~Liance^talk 18:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]