Talk:Battle of Kupiansk

Not finished

RF forces still hold the eastern part of the city. https://t.me/intelslava/37437 Shhssh (talk) 13:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Although events are still pretty recent, and there isn't much to go on, I would endorse adding an "Immediate Aftermath" section, to detail stuff like this. Atomic putty? Rien! 17:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I am proposing a merge of Battle of Kupiansk to 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive.

The substance of this article is very small – it seems as if there was little significant or notable fighting to retake Kupiansk. I see no reason why this should exist as a standalone article apart from the larger military operation.

It is also worth mentioning that the few (three total, by my searches) mentions of "Battle of Kupiansk" in reliable sources refer to events that took place in 2023 and 2024: 1 2 3. This means that the term "Battle of Kupiansk" for this 2022 event is yet another neologism coined by a Wikipedia editor.

SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 12:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Oppose we can't keep merging battle articles into massive articles for campaigns, instead campaigns should be broken up into more battle articles. Scu ba (talk) 03:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Scu ba: Your point about the size of articles is well taken, but by my count, a merge of Battle of Kupiansk to 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive would, in effect, only extend the target article by the equivalent of a few sentences. Most of the "background" and "aftermath" sections would likely be more appropriate to merge into Kupiansk, if it is not already there.

To your second point, I could argue that it is not our place as editors to define "battles" where reliable sources have not already done so, and on the contrary, creating such articles any time control over any city changes may be undue and even OR. It is worth noting that the 2022 recapture of Kupiansk has not been named as the "battle of Kupiansk" in sources or even recognized as a "battle" in the first place, and that the content of the article has remained minimal since it was first created. All the best. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 17:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)