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Subsections[edit]
I'm well aware of how subsections work, and why you want to make your thread a subsection. Normally that works just fine, but there is always the risk, especially when using a cellphone, that one clicks the main thread and ends up placing one's comment at the very bottom, IOW at the bottom of the subsection. I was forced to move my comment because that happened to me. It's just irritating. Subsections work best in articles but sometimes are not worth it on talk pages. If you insist on being uncooperative and irritating, I can't force you to change. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:07, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't understood that it was a mobile issue. I suspect it is not a general issue. I doubt very much that if one clicks on "reply", it will go to the wrong section. And if one click to edit the section, he has full control on the location of his comment. But thank you for informing me of your issue. If I see that it happens systematically, which I doubt, I will avoid creating subsection in the future. Dominic Mayers (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I usually open the thread by clicking on the section header. That opens up everything, including subsections. Sometimes I will click the "reply" link. When I then scrolled down quickly, not realizing you had restored your subsection level, I ended up at the very bottom and submitted my comment. Then I discovered it was missing from where I wanted it. Then found it at the very bottom of your subsection. If I had known you had restored the level, I wouldn't have made that mistake, but you did it while I was composing my comment elsewhere, and then I added it to Wikipedia by opening the main thread. That avoided an edit conflict, but ended up causing the problem. Weird shit happens at times. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but this is an issue that can be taken care by looking carefully where you put your comment. The fact that you weren't vigilant once is not a sufficient reason to request that people never create subsections. Dominic Mayers (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, ultimately it was my responsibility. I opened my thread and zoomed straight to the bottom without noticing I was in your subsection. Before opening the edit window, my page didn't show your updated level change, and I wasn't looking at the history, which would have shown the change. Then I placed my prepared comment there and saved it. It had to do with my expectations. I didn't expect you to change the level after reading my edit summary, which clearly expressed my concern. My edit summary was based on the previous experiences of myself and others. I've seen this happen many times. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I understand, but if you escalate this issue as if there existed an informal rule that we should not create subsections in talk pages, I would not appreciate it, because I believe it's wrong not to allow subsections for that reason. Dominic Mayers (talk) 23:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have no intention of escalating it. This is just between us. It was you I was addressing in my edit summary, and I took it for granted you would cooperate. I was mistaken. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:57, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I understand, but if you escalate this issue as if there existed an informal rule that we should not create subsections in talk pages, I would not appreciate it, because I believe it's wrong not to allow subsections for that reason. Dominic Mayers (talk) 23:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, ultimately it was my responsibility. I opened my thread and zoomed straight to the bottom without noticing I was in your subsection. Before opening the edit window, my page didn't show your updated level change, and I wasn't looking at the history, which would have shown the change. Then I placed my prepared comment there and saved it. It had to do with my expectations. I didn't expect you to change the level after reading my edit summary, which clearly expressed my concern. My edit summary was based on the previous experiences of myself and others. I've seen this happen many times. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but this is an issue that can be taken care by looking carefully where you put your comment. The fact that you weren't vigilant once is not a sufficient reason to request that people never create subsections. Dominic Mayers (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- I usually open the thread by clicking on the section header. That opens up everything, including subsections. Sometimes I will click the "reply" link. When I then scrolled down quickly, not realizing you had restored your subsection level, I ended up at the very bottom and submitted my comment. Then I discovered it was missing from where I wanted it. Then found it at the very bottom of your subsection. If I had known you had restored the level, I wouldn't have made that mistake, but you did it while I was composing my comment elsewhere, and then I added it to Wikipedia by opening the main thread. That avoided an edit conflict, but ended up causing the problem. Weird shit happens at times. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)